OC CIO Roundtable Minutes 11-12-09

1993-2009
Southern California/Orange County CIO Breakfast Round Table


Present: Jerry Thode, Jeff Hecht, Tina Haines, Jeff Reid, Jim Sutter, Sean Brown,
Joe Cracchiolo, Subbu Murthy, Dave Phillips
The minutes of this and prior breakfasts are available online at the Peer Consulting Group’s website, www.peergroup.net, with links to the presentation material, when available.

We are still looking for volunteers to introduce the following topics, starting in January:
IT alignment with the CEO/business
IT Governance
Web 2.0/Web 3.0
On-demand computing
Go Green with ?
Service Catalog
CIO longevity (or lack thereof)

Topic: Multisourcing and Vendor Managed Systems

Jerry Thode i-staff, started by stating the many reasons for and myths of multisourcing. The myths include - it is independent of business strategy; it will reduce costs; it will manage itself; the best price wins; the skills for managing external services are the same as for internal services. There are good reasons for multisourcing including access to specific skill sets, and flexibility and agility to do multiple projects without adding permanent staff. It pays to develop relationships with more than one source, and to establish rules for governance. Keys to success include focus on business value, on functional optimization and standardization. He described a number of case studies. He then went on to talk about VMS – vendor managed services – customized programs to improve effectiveness of some or all of a company’s contracting, procurement and management processes of external services. This includes professional payroll services and a virtual bench. He described the evolution of service, and the VMS management process and measures of success, including SLAs and reports. This was an interesting, interactive presentation and discussion – thank you Jerry for a lively introduction. Jerry's slides are at: http://www.slideshare.net/occio .

We asked each of the members present to relate one experience with multisourcing or vendor managed systems.

Jeff Hecht, Word & Brown, talked about a payrolling experience that he had 9 years ago. At that time he worked for a start-up that was starting to grow too big to handle the function by themselves, but too small to hire a full payroll staff, so they all became employees of a payrolling service company. It worked well for a while. A lot of what Jerry talked about resonated with Jeff, especially some of the myths. Putting a 3rd party VMS company between you and your vendors tends to takes away from the relationships that you form with each vendor.

Jeff Reid, formerly of Conexant/Toyota, said that some of the myths are right on. In his experience, the financial group gets involved and the contract is awarded to the cheapest vendor, which makes all the myths true. He has had to go in to a new company and renegotiate contracts so that both sides benefit from the relationship.

Tina Haines is big on relationships, and recalls the early days of using Wipro. They tried to cut out using all the middle people. Things did not go smoothly, and they had to hire all those people back again. The result was that they used the same people for years.

Sean Brown, RJTCompuquest, remembers doing business with BMW in S. Carolina for several years. He developed a great relationship with BMW staff over time, until a VMS group got in, and all his personal relationships were lost. He was not getting enough intelligent feedback, but he had to learn to adapt to the new process.

Subbu Murthy, USourceIT, said that this was his bread and butter. He is starting to work with VMS groups, but is not going to replace the traditional outsourcers. Staffing can be web based, but project outsourcing works better with personal relationships.

Thanks again to Jerry Thode, i-staff, for his presentation which can be found at http://www.slideshare.net/occio .